A Joseph Smithian Metaphysics?
Posted on February 3, 2009
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Elsewhere someone came up with this great list of basic ontology inspired by Mormonism and Joseph Smith. I’ve modified this somewhat but the idea was so great I wanted to post it here. I should note that this does not purport to represent Joseph’s actual metaphysical positions. That’s an impossible exegetical question in my view. I just don’t think he was sophisticated enough or interested enough in metaphysics to have much of a determined ontology. That said I think many principles he provided can help develop a more characteristic LDS ontology.
I think what is most characteristic of Mormon philosophy is both our materialism and our idea that the world is not ontologically dependent upon an external designer for all its order and being.
- The world is not originarily one. That is it does not arise out of a single source, principle or cause. It is pluralistic. Things just are. In the beginning God finds himself already in the company of other intelligences he did not create nor organize.
- The world is ultimately not about static entities but endlessly self-unfolding dynamic processes. Mormonism embraces a process rather than substance ontology.
- There is an ontological continuity in all that exists. There is no absolute dualism.
- Relations are always applicable to everything. There is no privileged substance with a unique relationship. That is there is a certain kind of monism of the universe.
An other perhaps more controversial view that could defensibly be added is the idea of the continuity of intelligence and matter. That is all matter from some perspective has intelligent aspects. (In the sense that a car expresses intelligence due to its being a tool) Likewise the inverse is also true in that all intelligence is ultimately material.
This could be put stronger as the Peircean sort of continuity between matter and intelligence but that is harder to defend as characteristic of Mormon thought. (Although it is common)
Once again somewhat copying others these points could be reframed as the following ontology:
- Complex
- Dynamic
- Open
- Distributed
- Self-organizing
- Emergent
- Local
- Monistic
I think most of those are self explanatory except for locality. I mean by that an ontology that is neither fully reducible or nor fully totalizable into a whole. That is no adequate description can be given by only appealing to the parts nor to the whole.
While I can’t take credit for this great simple summary, I think it a great way to summarize my own position.
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Comments
Can you give me some more sources to consult on what Mormon ontology might be and how to reconcile ontology to the Mormon faith?? The listing you’ve provided is too schematic to tell me much so I hop you can help with some more in depth sources. Thanks.
Would you expand more on the monism? I’m not sure how that differs much from the idea that everything is matter.
Are 1 and 4 contradicting? Both pluralistic and monistic? Wouldn’t the type of monism that is being suggested only true in terms of ‘relationships’? I would have thought Mormonism was thoroughly pluralistic.
Jacob, I’d caution tying process thinking to the process thought of Whitehead let alone his popularizers like Hartshorne. As I think Nicholas Rescher has amply demonstrated it’s a philosophical stance with many adopters over the years going back at least to Leibniz. Each thinker has their own stance but in the general stance they share a view that process is more important than substance. My own views arise more out of Peirce and Heidegger rather than Whitehead. But I think Joseph’s focus on growth and eternal progression (and well before the rise of Darwinism injected this so strongly into philosophy) entails a strong process view.
Tom, not all Mormon philosophers would agree with the above. So I don’t think there is a Mormon philosophy. Rather there are lots of diverse Mormon philosophers. The above is explicitly not meant as an exegesis of Smith but rather taking some prominent themes and applying them to the ontological sphere.
As for sources, there’s really not a good book that does this. The books that have attempted to do it typically were written in the early 20th century and adopt dated naive views of either Mormon theology or philosophy. The best resent book is Blake Ostler’s three volume Exploring Mormon Thought. It’s a groundbreaking work but ends up adopting several very controversial theological stances that are outside of the mainstream of Mormon thought. (The rejection of foreknowledge, and the rejection of the straightforward reading of eternal progression and a plurality of gods as taught in the King Follet Discourse)
The other best source for Mormon theology are the various fragmentary notes on Joseph Smith’s sermons. These are actually online in a very nice format. However it gets tricky since these are not canonical for Mormons and are generally seen as mixed with speculation that Mormons are free to reject.
There are other writings. The Society for Mormon Philosophy and Theology is getting going with yearly conferences and a journal. However no one has yet synthesized all this academic inquiry into a single source. Yet. I suspect this will come but honestly right now everyone is still working out the ideas. It’s very early in development.
You also have the issue that by and large people are interpreting Mormonism from the particular philosophical interests they have. So Aristotle scholars look at it
Kent, as I see monism, it’s the idea that there basically isn’t stuff with radically different properties ala Cartesian dualism or Thomist souls.
Clark,
Thanks for the reference to Blake Ostler – I have his 3 vols on order as I came across him on looking into the other areas of this blog. Thanks for the reference and I’ll try and keep posting later with some relation to his writings.
My own take on the first post on “Smithean Metaphysics” is that we can’t set up a metaphysics that simply derives its conclusions from Mormon theology. As the first part of philosophy metaphysics must proceed by rational demonstration to its conclusions while theology can itself make use of revelation and dogmatic statements to reach its conclusions. The two disciplines have different methods due to their differing subjects just like physics and biology.
Given this I’m not sure that a fully materialistic philosophy can give account of the whole manifold of reality and the simple statement that the world is not ontologically dependent upon an external designer for all its order and being is not a demonstration of the validity of the statement.
Also too many of the subsequent statements appear to rest on theological rather than philosophical grounds. We need to not pull in Mormon revelation and dogma to prove philosophical positions otherwise we are committing the same blunders that the early Scholastics did.
For instance that the world is not originarily one, we would need to demonstrate that and elaborate on it especially given adequate concordance with physics. Also that is it does not arise out of a single source, principle or cause; it is pluralistic. This needs a rational demonstration not simply iteration.
It is to me wholly inadequate to simply state that things just are. Since I know through sense experience around me that things come into existence and go out of existence and that there is no thing known by sense to me that is not subject to a becoming that means both a beginning and an end. But worse to philosophically appear to justify this by saying “In the beginning God finds himself already in the company of other intelligences he did not create nor organize.” Who demonstrates this philosophically? Isn’t this all to simply do theology but call it philosophy?
The world is ultimately not about static entities but endlessly self-unfolding dynamic processes. Mormonism embraces a process rather than substance ontology. I’m not sure Mormonism can embrace ontology at all but may have to reject it wholesale.
“There is an ontological continuity in all that exists. There is no absolute dualism. Relations are always applicable to everything. There is no privileged substance with a unique relationship. That is there is a certain kind of monism of the universe.” If by saying this we are saying that everything is materialistic then we have to be able to account for everything by that materialism yet I find real problems arise when we have to speak of the difference between inanimate organic matter and living beings and have to deal with what life is as something different from or added to organic matter and again when we speak of mind and physical brain or body and soul we have to find some way to account for how the immaterial arises from the material and worse if we do we’ve already violated our basic tenent that everything is materialistic?
So I believe we have a lot of work to establishing a Mormon Metaphysics or philosophy. I’m not sure that the task has begun. I will check out Ostler when the volumes arrive and see what I can glean from them. Thanks for the input and the journey should be quite interesting.
Tom Z
I don’t think the suggestion that there is only one true metaphysics that can be successively approximated by rational considerations alone is remotely tenable. It is akin to the suggestion that the only reason scientists do experiments is because they are mentally inadequate.
I don’t think there is one true metaphysics but I think we can specify a range of metaphysics. But metaphysics is always at best weakly argued and so we should have a critical stance towards it. The only thing worse than being committed to a single metaphysics is convincing oneself that one doesn’t have a metaphysics at all.
My own view on metaphysics can be found here.
Tom, I’m very skeptical of any metaphysics that “proceed[s] by rational demonstration to its conclusions.” Of course I’m not clear on what you mean by that. But I can’t think of metaphysics that has been done that way since the Rationalists. I think that metaphysics ought use the results of empirical study and work out the most likely underlying grounds. Now theology is not, of course, empirical. But I think if we take the theological grounds as serious then we can ask what kind of metaphysics would be entailed if a solid reading of tradition Mormon theology was true. That is proceed in much the same way we do with empirical results from the sciences. As I’ve mentioned many times I extremely skeptical of intuition as an appeal. I do think a kind of phenomenological introspection is also necessary albeit one that takes into consideration close study of signs.
Regarding you subsequent paragraph, I’m not sure how the claim that metaphysics and theology use different methods entails that “a fully materialist philosophy can give account of the whole manifold of reality.” I can see someone for other reasons opposing materialism. Of course the materialism I’m espousing isn’t a tradition materialism.
I also think you’re putting up a greater opposition between theology and philosophy than is justifiable. I think the Scholastics get far too bum a rap. I think the problem of Scholasticism was that tradition got far too much weight. I additionally think that the Scholastics had at best a naive hermeneutic of scriptural interpretation. The problem with the Scholastics wasn’t that they used theology. The problem with the Scholastics was tradition became dogma. (With the exception of the transition from Plato as master to Aristotle as master) So there also was a certain lack of a skeptical stance I think it necessary for inquiry.
As for knowing that things come in and out of existence, I may or may not agree depending upon what you mean by “things.” I see forms change. But is that things coming in and out of existence? So I think our phenomenology here has to be far more sophisticated.
As for Mormonism being unable to embrace ontology. I confess I’m not sure what that means. Further I don’t think one can reject ontology. All that means is that one has an ontology one doesn’t think about critically. But it’s still there, often inconsistent, and affecting our thinking.
Clark:The world is not originarily one. That is it does not arise out of a single source, principle or cause. It is pluralistic. Things just are.
I assume from the above that God is not Necessary, but rather is Accidental or Contingent?
You know I’ve thought about that question a long time Michael and I’m not sure I have an answer. I don’t think most Mormons think in terms of the contingent/necessary categories. The way it’s usually conceived of though is that since all beings go into the infinite past without a beginning is that all intelligences are equally necessary beings. But there are compelling cases to be made on the other side. It depends upon how you consider possible universes.
Is there a possible universe in which there is no God? I think most Mormons would say no. Can they establish this justifiably though? I’m not sure. I will say though that the kind of thinking about God as a necessary being that tends to go on in traditional Christian theology just is alien to most Mormon thought. Mormons tend to existentialists rather than essentialists in that sense. So it’s probably unsurprising that existentialism, even among those more on the analytic side of the philosophical fence, is quite influential among Mormons.
The more interesting question is whether the being who is God is necessarily God or whether there could in a possible universe be an other being who is God. While I don’t know, I suspect there would be much more diversity of opinion on that question.
Thanks, Clark. I was wondering because I suspected that if one posits that God’s existence precedes his essence, then one can move smoothly into an existentialist ontology of the Sartrean/Heideggerian variety– as you seemed to confirm.
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The parallels with Process thought are fairly strong, and I’m not just referring to the word “process” in #2. The metaphysic is about as Whiteheadian as it is Smithian.